I go to Oral Roberts University. They also will not do anything to you for supporting it as they follow Christs example in loving everyone and not judging others for their beliefs. Both Testaments contain warnings concerning the use and specific instruction regarding the sinful abuse of alcohol. its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law.. Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. What about people like me with throat issues? The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. Shoes should be worn in academic buildings, chapel, and the dining hall at all times. No video games may possess an M rating, nor are students allowed to own movies above the PG-13 rating. Division II varsity sports with student-athletes maintaining a focus on ministry and impacting the world for Christ. Also, youre a little too sarcastic in your sentences. The bible is the guideline to these rules. But God does not write off enjoying anything unless it is harmful to our bodies or hurts others, neither of which are true about alcohol. As a matter of fact, Im taking a dance class currently! I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. The dress can best be described as business casual. OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. Absolutely true! Please, be wise! We can have/get tattoos, we dont have to attend church at all if we dont want to. 1 Corinthians 9:4 says, Do we not have the right to eat and drink? Paul goes on to argue that we should not do so if it would cause a stumbling block to other believers. Alcohol use is not repeatedly rebuked in scripture. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. program doesnt work for precisely this reason it doesnt teach kids that cocaine is worse than beer. Good for them, I applaud them. That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. Honesty, refraining from causing harm to others, community, and staying within the laws of the home country all remain relatively reasonable and universal codes that give students structure while still preserving their individuality and bolstering their character. Some of the dating offenses include displays of affection beyond hand-holding both on- and off-campus, seeing one another in swimming or sunbathing attire, not exiting a car at the same time immediately upon turning off the engine, being caught alone together while at school, and going on single dates while a freshman. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. Both my wife and I are hurt! let me spell it out for you PROSELYTISM. Women have to wear a dress or skirt and hose most of the time. And its true men may not wear makeup. 13:13; Rom. Quite honestly, speaking as a Christian myself, attending a private Christian college is not always the best choice depending on your career path. And we can definitely dance. The year I spent attending Pensacola Christian College was the worse year of my life. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. Affiliated with the Reformed Presbyterian Church, the College built its first building, Old Main (now called Founders Hall), in 1895. Location & Hours 251 N Main St Cedarville, OH 45314 Get directions Who is she to judge!? While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. Access Canvas. Im not talking about breaking these rules, Im talking about snobishly being on the look for anyone that might be breaking these rules and falesly accusing them. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines.. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. I dont think that students are better off if they attend these schools. 2:1317; 1 Pet. All resident and commuter students at Oral Roberts University are required to attend church at least twice a week and find themselves to a highly restrictive dress code. -Tobacco, its a smoke free campus, just like NKU is now. Students are expected to be honest and truthful in all forms of communication (verbal or written). As for the dress code, it sounds old fashioned and sexist. http://www.pcci.edu/ Do you think Id have argued about a college?
Id go ahead and start packing. EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) The 43-year-old gunman who killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University had no apparent connection to the campus, police said Tuesday as they searched for a motive for shootings that terrified the community for hours.. Investigators were sorting out why Anthony McRae fired inside an academic building and the student union just before 8 . Your email address will not be published. It really sucks that you went to such an awful college. Alcohol makes a person less alert and diminishes self-control. The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. Sports is taken seriously and we do very well in the Div One level.Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow etcthese are outstanding Christian athletes/men and went to secular schoolsyou dont have to be christian and goto to a christian college to stay christian.some students like the positive atmosphere and some just like the locationeveryone has their own preference. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. By banning both entirely harmless things (eg violent movies) and more harmful things (eg smoking, alcohol without moderation) with the same strictness, these schools create an awful situation where students who have the intelligence and insight necessary to see that the ban on the harmless items is a load of rubbish may likewise think that the harmful things will be OK, too. Attending chapel is mandatory, and it is heavily suggested that not participating in other Christian ceremonies or functions is highly frowned upon. I know Id want someone to visit me. Well I attended Pennsacola and BJU and frankly PCC was much better. This biblical teaching, coupled with the reality that alcohol is addictive to many and that alcohol-related problems pose a major threat to college students, warrants wisdom concerning the use of alcohol. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. Cedarville College was established in 1887 by five godly men who envisioned a college that would provide Christian higher education. and the campus is primarily pro-life, yes. For instance: (1) in your room and dont come back out after 10:30pm; (2) she was 20 and we both had to get permission for her to visit my family 35 miles away, permission from her mother and from my grandmother to go to Grandmas house; (3) we had our social privileges removed for 2 weeks because she rubbed my shoulder while I was laying on the school grounds as she was sitting on the ground next to me. Popular majors include Nursing, Mechanical Engineering, and Early Childhood Education. The admission office refused to release the student handbook until one signed on the dotted line, feet on campus for semester orientation and parents away from campus. 20:1; Prov. Just food for thought. Every college and university around the world expects its students to uphold certain standards. If you EVER want to be in a highly sexually-charged atmosphere, these are the places to be. What if the rule was actually because the majority of other schools have Title IX sexual assault cases involving the influence of alcohol? There are a couple Id like to flesh out. If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. Some people feel safer if there isnt a lot of drinking and other rowdiness going on. Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! In this article, our anonymous author discusses the practical, common sense issues with the policy, the detailed policy issues within the student handbook, and a Biblical review of the alcoholic prohibition instated at Cedarville. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). Its not as strict as its portrayed here. The students realize that they will be under strict rule. Outright banning everything that can be dangerous to someones health and character leaves much less room for students to learn moderation. I was a student of your college from 1990 to 1997. More information on the personal care attendant policy and other disability accommodations is available at cedarville.edu/disabilities . If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. Clothing should not have slogans that are inconsistent with University values. Cedarville University is an independent Baptist school located in Cedarville, Ohio, which teaches its academics "by Christian tradition" meaning, believing that their take on religion is the only right view, that free speech is a no-no, that gays are evil, that evolution is religion and creationism is science, that the bible is a history textbook and that any TV show/movie/video game/book . They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). Cedarville University. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? A student may be subject to involuntary withdrawal from the University or from University housing if the student engages or threatens to engage in the following: Behavior that poses a danger of causing physical harm to self or others. They have every right to set the standards they want to set. Your email address will not be published. Dami, 1) Some book says so doesnt justify anything. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. 2A) A proper reading of the Sodom story shows that the sin that was committed was inhospitality to strangers Jesus also sites Sodom in this context, 2B) Lots daughters are offered up to the strangers is this an example of morality? Lets hope your RA didnt pursue a career in counseling. these are adults who may have attended high schools where,they like myself,was paddled for minor mistakes. Comments? I know its frustrating to have people object to aspects of your lifestyle and faith, but I dont think responding with condescending bias is helpful. All women are required to keep their skirts at knee-length or longer and receive no piercings beyond one in the earlobe. And in your rush to condemn schools that ban stuff that the book theyre led by tells them is wrong and sinful, you left out the worse stuff. The power is usually slanted in the parents favor, particularly in highly religious homes. I went to the definitely not religious university of Iowa State University years ago. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. The big issue that I have is the way the university attempts to control activity while school is not in session and students are at home. She said, as a Christian thats how I live my life anyway. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well. They are private institutions and can set their own policies. This was not a good recipe for being a successful artist. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. They make you attend a formal dinner every night and make you dress up for dinner too. The decision to use alcohol and tobacco kills nearly 500,000 Americans a year, the porn industry destroys millions, and how many die from abortion. Degree: Allied Health. Students at these schools are missing out. Those who speak and act to offend may be jackasses etc. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. I laud these schools and urge them to bring moral decadence to the bearet minimum. Welcome to Cedarville University, an exceptional Christian university in southwest Ohio. He let people reach out and touch him because to touch him was to touch life and forgiveness, no matter their past or present. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. Just so you guy who are whining about people not having freedom: These students CHOOSE to attend these colleges in full awareness of their rules. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. As with many Christian colleges and universities, Liberty extends its behavioral guidelines to students who live off campus as well as on. 4:3. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. Cedarville's first rule is undoubtedly pointed at women. You should consider Faulkner Univsersity for one of these top 10. The school has a religious affiliation with the Baptist faith. Theres morality, and then theres this. Political or social demonstrations including harmless picketing are completely banned on campus, and the University heavily discourages participating in any held off-campus as well. As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines. This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. 2nd Just because something is legal doesnt make it good for you. Still having nightmares. Cedarville justifies their policy by referencing the Drug-free Schools and Communities Act, which requires universities to provide, Standards of conduct that clearly prohibit, at a minimum, the unlawful possession, use, or distribution of illicit drugs and alcohol on school property or as part of any school activities foremployees (Policy)orstudents (Code of Conduct) and a statement of disciplinary actions associated with those violations. Cedarville University should be on this list its more strict than Liberty. The biblical expectation of modesty is that the conduct of both men and women, which includes but is not limited to dress, serves to enhance rather than detract from the reputation of the Gospel (1 Tim. D.A. Im thinking that the author of this either made up some bs to get people riled, or got his hands on a 40yr-old student manual. Will students at uber-Chritstian universities have this? As we know from history, prohibition massively failed. -Pornography duh. Cedarvilles prohibition of alcohol simply diversifies students tactics to engage in the habits they will inevitably choose to form. I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. Possessing legal pornography, light to moderate drinking (even non-alcoholic versions of beer or cocktails), gambling, premarital or extramarital sex (regardless of whether or not the latter take place within an open relationship), dressing immodestly, supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with the occult (with the lines of what constitutes such practices never explicitly stated), using profanity, tobacco, engaging in or supporting homosexuality, and having or supporting abortions are also very much in violation of the schools strict moral guidelines. And of course, students can meet ANYWHERE else on or off campus whenever they want. Sexual abuse and incest are very understandably considered a violation due to their illegality and penchant for psychological damage, but legal activities like abortion, premarital and extramarital sex (even within the confines of an open marriage), and homosexuality are held up as just as appalling. I graduated from ORU, great school! The school even governs how students are to go about their off-campus employment as well. Sex is frequent, furious, and freaky. Restrictions only cause problems for those who dont agree with the lifestyle. So do they follow the rules or not? In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. That's right, an MBA degree. Feb 25 (Sat) 5:00 PM. A church I was told to attend? Folk dancing? God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) Faith College Largo Florida. But some schools, most especially those affiliated with the evangelical Christian movement in the United States, raise a number of extremely difficult questions with their adherence to a highly restrictive code of values. They cant dance, cant gamble, and cant even lightly use alcohol or tobacco even if of legal age. Being used to overbearing, micro-managing or fear-based parenting, it is difficult for many kids to realize at that young age that they are actually capable of making their own decisions! What if that rule is not to be a legalistic, archaic kill-joy? I attended Pensacola Christian College in the early 1980s. Going far beyond the usual, generally accepted standards of not breaking the law, acting in a disruptive or discourteous manner, and remaining honest in word, deed, and homework, they raise a number of fascinating moral and ethical questions regarding personal freedom. Dancing, too, falls under extremely restrictive guidelines as well, with the school outright refusing to allow it on campus or any official functions held offsite. -Supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with occult (This is not entirely true. I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. If you want to be a Christian, go to a Christian school if possible. degree, but never got it. No one is forcing anyone to attend those colleges/universities. The problems arise when we disregard our fellow believers who are of weaker conscience. (https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/on-disputable-matters/) While I do not agree with every aspect of Carsons analysis, he does raise some key truths about disputable matters..
Impractical, Immoral, and Illegal: Cedarville's Dangerous Dress Code Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is not founded in fact, policy, or Biblical principle. Use of alcohol was simply pushed underground out of regulatory bounds and resulted in the creation of a black market. The college actually will accept you no matter whatever religion you are, even if you are atheist. If a student applies and is admitted to one of the educational institutions it is safe to assume that theyve read and have agreed to the guidelines. He turned water into wine. Cedarville does their best to preserve their image among students, and that is a precaution that I dont think is unreasonable. I regret to say that it was not from the Asbury experience. Their lives suck. Jesus drank wine. The specific guidelines included below are shaped by biblical principles, community preferences, and cultural expectations in terms of propriety and professionalism. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. Cedarville provides the following specific guidelines intended to help all students with their commitment to moral purity: Students are prohibited from accessing pornographic or obscene websites or creating links to such sites. Isnt that what freedom means: choosing what you want to do and suffering the consequences for your actions. . However, this article doesnt actually say that these schools are bad just that they are very strict, which they are.
The Scandal Deepens at Cedarville University | Righting America If you give your kids a firm understanding of probability, they wont even *want* to gamble. Maintenance Office. The author of this article did not support, in any way, shape or form, getting drunk.
Policies | Cedarville University I imagine that most people know about the tendency of people who live in extremely sheltered and restrictive environments to go wild as soon as these restrictions are removed and they realise how much freedom they have, because they never learnt self-control. We should not drink alcohol around underage students or those who struggle with alcoholism. they as adults need freedom to make own choices. you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. So if the rules dont work for you, dont go there. You are so used to being controlled that its normal or just easier to do what your are told. They completely reach into the personal lives and convictions of their students, demanding that they refrain from such so-called perversions such as premarital sex, extramarital sex (even if both parties agree to an open relationship), and homosexuality. In fact, Amos 9:14 says, I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit.. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. Maybe this list should just be 10 Strict Christian Colleges? When I transferred from Asbury to the University of Kentucky, I found professors at UK to be nicer, more involved in my learning, more supportive, more Christian, and more ethical than my Asbury experience. Believers should also take 1 Corinthians 8-10 to heart and be sensitive to the struggles of our fellow believers. when they prohibit homosexuality while prohibiting interaction with the opposite sex. I am glad that the author is not in charge of a Christian college because But unless you go, you cant mock it because you havent even been there or checked it out. Especially for women it was very restrictive. 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. What rules are they not so strict on? I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. Any freshmen taking less than 24 hours of coursework must be in their dorm rooms by midnight on Monday through Wednesday and 12:30 AM on Friday through Sunday. LU is now one of the largest christian colleges in teh US, if not the largest. If merely one look at offensive material is more powerful than the exalted Holy canons, your God sounds as defenseless against the Devil as you are. Since Asbury, I dont believe that she has read one new such book. The professors are very intentional so that studying the bible isn't just for academia, but . Students are not to attend clubs or bars where alcohol is the primary feature and Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates university standards.. he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. [emailprotected]. Your email address will not be published. It always has been, and always will be. Therefore, students are encouraged to portray servant attitudes toward Christ and other people in their dress and appearance. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. Cedarville goes far beyond regulations mandated in the DFSC Act by attempting to regulate the daily lives of their students whether on or off campus. Second, since only very strict Christians will be attending these schools, students wont have as much exposure to other points of view unless they actively seek them out. L, 8-10. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates University standards. There are a few on this list that are over the top in their rules, like Bob Jones and Pensacola. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. Extremely vulgar!!! Youre a different kind of stupid. BUT, they do not have any rules against you watching them on your own, or even on things like violent video games. All students with a course load of 6 hours or more are required to contribute at least 6 hours of volunteer work in a Christian-related field per month, and they are heavily discouraged from taking jobs that distract from the schools staunch moral guidelines. They make you go to chapel church services every single day, and some days you have to go to church more than once, the only exception is if you are sick enough to be in the infirmary. I have met people that go to PCC and they have all said only good things about it. An act isnt good because God does it a being can only be God if it only does good acts. Finally she taught me how to take a hard anal fucking so I would be ready for a fundie husband some day. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. For example, can we ever seriously argue that taking jet skis out on a lake or visiting Kings Island are a means of divine sanctification? I attended Asbury for my first 2 years of college and met my wife there. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. I often hang out in large groups without a chaperon at like 2am. For this, I say thank you. Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. Free thinkers, thanks! Tara, Im sorry to hear you had such a negative experience at Asbury. Keep up the good work! Good job elarning to sneak though. 16 17. Carson) does not equate to belief in everything they believe or agreement with any or all of their actions. Are they genuinely pushing their students towards the path of Christ? Admissions is fairly competitive as the Cedarville acceptance rate is 59%. The student body is also expected to maintain a standard of modesty at all times while on campus. Church attendance is required once a week, but it is not monitored. Im very sorry that Pensacola was such a horrible experience for you but keep it to yourself.
Court documents reveal new details in Cedarville University stabbing Whats your motive? What do the students do when theyre not in classes? We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. We just simply believe the policy is archaic, not biblically based, and should be changed.
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