Hornady offers a Varmint Express load using a 17 grain None of them ever did. Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? I'm burning Tac and 25 gr VMAX in my old 17 Rem and it really shoots well. Today, the .35 Rem. I have now owned five different .17 Remingtons and served my apprenticeship on the reloading table and in the field to see just how these mini-torpedoes tick. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. | : 4,638 4,917 Press. Pressures are about 20,000 pounds per square inch (psi) with 12.0 grains of A-5744 and Lymans 225646 55-grain cast bullet in the .223. ), A few precautions must be heeded when loading rounds like the .35 Rem. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. With a 23-degree shoulder and a case length of 1.796 inchesthe .223 Remington uses a 1.760-inch-long casethe .17 Remington often has a powder charge heavier than its bullet. We show you how. Wind drift is the .17 HMR's Achilles heel. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. 25, 50, 100, and 200 yards, but all of our shooting for record was done The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. Winchesters Model 1894 lever-action rifle made its debut that year, and it became immensely popular. We have found the accuracy potential of all three cartridges to be excellent and essentially the same. This American-made, fast-burning, double-based powder is suited to small capacity cases like the .22 Hornet and 7.62x39, and it is also useful for lightweight bullets in the .223 Remington. all five .17 HMR loads delivered significantly higher .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. All Rights Reserved. Favorite loads for your .17 Remington - PredatorMasters Forums Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Log In ] Predator Masters Home Forums Hunting Reloading & Ammo Favorite loads for your .17 Remington Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ Who's Online Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. Called flyers--the result of difficult to compile. exceeded its published MV by 59 fps, the Hornady Varmint Express ammo After firing many rounds through a Marlin Model 336, I have to say that LVR is far and away the best powder for this cartridge, but there are several other propellants that also work well. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. The CZ 7.62x39 grouped three Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets in .69 inch with LT-32 and into 1.05 inches shooting LT-30. Seated to touch & group sizes will double. of sight. velocity at 10', rather than actual MV. Seems like once I settle on a load, the bullet is discontinued. Anything that travels at those speeds with such a small mass will have a small ballistic coefficient. Moving up in powder capacity, the .17 Mach IV was introduced during the 1960s by Las Vegas gunsmith Vern OBrien, whose custom rifles were on the dainty Sako L46 action. Recently picked up another old Sako Vixen (L46) this one in 222 Rem Mag., and so far, best load is 26.5 IMR 4895, 50 gr. I have weighed four brands of cases and found considerable variation (10.4 percent) from the lightest (Hornady, at 145.0 grains) and the heaviest (Winchester, at 160.1 grains). When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. And the recommended trim length is 1.910 inches. .17 Remi The data guide lists .223 Remington loads for A-2495 with 80- and 90-grain bullets. Accuracy was great, but velocity was slower than with other powders. My 7RM did really well with H1000 with 168 and 180 HVLDs. It was the most accurate rifle and load I ever used. sighting-in all the rifles or the 60+ rounds that we fired in the Rob. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. Aug 29, 2009 Was at the gun show this am, looking for some h 4350 powder. CCI's published 100 yard velocity/energy figures for this load are 2050 fps and 159 ft. lbs. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Accurate Shooter Forum and Daily Bulletin Gun Blog. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. is recommended for this task. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Groups hover around an inch at 100 yards. Case life is long, and barrel life is normally around 7,000 or 8,000 rounds (at least for minute-of-varmint accuracy) due largely to the modest pressures and rather small powder charges. The 17 Rem. Deer seasons in the UK. like the weather in Eugene, wait a while and it will change.) This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. As always, it behooves anyone with a .17 HMR varmint CCI A17: high 2813 fps; low 2742 fps; extreme spread Remington 7 1/2 BR. . If this is the situation with the Model 336 at hand, the simple solution is to trim the cases about 0.010 inch shorter than the trim length noted earlier. 2525 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 241 ft. lbs. 100 yards with the 17 Grain V-MAX bullet at a catalog MV of 2550 fps. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .17 Rem. Though, as with all the .17 bullets, if you push them too fast, too soon, the high rotational spin in flight can cause the bullet to disintegrate before it reaches the target. Groups were measured from center to center of the I prefer 20-grain bullets in the .17 Hornets because they can be pushed much faster than 25-grain bullets. 1-9/16"; mean average group = 1-1/4". All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 grain Speer TNT JHP bullet at a claimed MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. Its the same powder as Ramshots X-Terminator. largest group 2-3/4"; mean average group = 1-13/32". five .17 HMR loads. Alternatives, getting heavy AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. 0 gr with H4350 in 30-06 using a 165 gr sierra HPBT. Last edited by obaro; 04/10/20 09:18 AM. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Fortunately, shooting .17 HMR rifles is really The Remington 7 1/2 BR couldn't be match. I've used IMR 4350 and IMR 4831. My personal-for-my- Caspiangun-only most accurate load came from them pesky Rainier 200g PHPs that I couldn't get to run right until I loaded them over a wee bit (3.8g) of Bullseye. his or her individual rifle. CCI A17 load was chronographed using a Savage A17 test rifle with a 22" The powder also shot well with 50-grain bullets fired in the .22-250. (Ret.) In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington) Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI) . The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. The second rifle is a Traditions Outfitter single shot. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. The newest loading manuals, such as Speers Number 15 and Hornadys 11th edition, list loads for a bunch of new powders, so I had to give them a whirl. 3100 fps. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. mean average group = 1-17/32". I shot LT-32 in two bolt-action .223 Remingtons and LT-30 and LT-32 in a CZ bolt-action 7.62x39. The 7mm Remington Magnum was introduced in 1962 along with the new Remington Model 700. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. This pleasant outdoor facility offers target stands at The Western data guide contains 5.56x45mm (5.56 NATO) load data developed in a .223 Remington chamber with Winchester .223 cases (so they are okay to shoot in either a .223 or 5.56 chamber) with a maximum average pressure of 62,350 psi. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Norma 200, 55gr. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. Accurate Arms was incorporated in McEwen, Tennessee, in 1980, after several years of selling surplus powders from the U.S. government. With the Adaptive Tactical Tac Hammer barrel on a good, tight Ruger 10/22, these results are possible at a long 100 yards. : 41,500 50,400 CUP You can also check in our bullet database for which Hornady bullets we offer . I fired a couple of loads with the Barnes 180-grain TTSX in the Outfitter single shot, but I must emphasize that these pointed bullets are suited only for single-shot rifles or pump guns or autoloaders and should not be used in guns with tubular magazines. Ultimately we fired a total of over 80 groups and 400+ Shooting 20 of those cartridges is enough fun for a day. The powder is just right for the Swift. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. Well, the reasons are simple. Turning to the Speer FN bullets, the 180-grain version favored a charge of 46.0 grains at 2,316 fps. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. If not, the bullet comes apart in the barrel or on the way to the target. There are many .35 Rem. This is still capable of cleanly killing a fox. Velocity was instrumental 15 feet ahead of the muzzle. However, the key word here is initial velocity. Subscriber Services. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The 7mm Remington Magnum rifle cartridge was introduced as a commercially available round in 1962, along with the new Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle.It is a member of the belted magnum family that is directly derived from the venerable .375 H&H Magnum. Copyright 2005 by Chuck Hawks. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. The home of Shooting Times, Sporting Gun and Airgun Shooter. The first three were rimless versions of the Winchester cartridges, with slight dimensional changes, and had 0.421-inch rims. The 260 has become very popular in sniper shooting competitions. Mag. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. Knowledge is the most precious 10 MPH crosswind this bullet will drift 3.3" laterally at 100 yards and Oh, and it still has minimal recoil. I dumped 19.5 grains of A-2520 directly from a powder measure into .17 Remington Fireball cases and seated Hornady 25-grain V-MAX bullets. The .17 ballistics It was chambered for cartridges that were designed to be direct competitors of the M94s cartridges. The 7mm Remington Magnum is capable of pushing 160-grain bullets to 3,000 and even 3,100 fps, which makes it an excellent choice for deer and antelope hunting. Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. First Focal Plane vs. Second Focal Plane Scopes Explained: Which is Best? staff members, including yours truly, shot groups through five velocity, lowest velocity, extreme spread, and mean average velocity. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. Paper_Sniper: The load I am about to relay to you has been exceptionally accurate in several 223 Remington Varmint type Rifles I own. We are running a top end load so START low and work up!!!. Roundnose bullets that mimic factory loads are available from Hornady and Sierra. This short-cut, single-base extruded rifle powder competes with H-4350 and IMR-4350. My 17 won't shoot the 20 gr VMAX and the 25 seems to give better air time. Our .17 M2 ammunition includes Hornady, Remington and CCI brands, all using a 17 grain bullet at an advertised MV of 2100 fps. Some burn cleaner, some have better load densities, but RL15 stands out as the best in my gun yours may well be different. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. I am sure Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Hornady Load Data. Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. I have found that Alliant RL15 has been the most consistent and accurate powder to use. We fired 10 shots per load over the Guns Our range protocol was simple. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. The catalog 100 yard velocity is 1900 fps and the 100 yard Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). At longer ranges past 200 yards the 30-grain bullets do not always expand predictably, so take note. Using Hornady .17 Hornet brass to form .17 Ackley Hornet cases eliminates the need for case-forming dies. The subcompact GLOCK 42 carries 6+1 rounds of. Greetings. At 200 yards you will Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! That pair shot five bullets well under .5 inch the best the old Swift rifle has shot any load. 17 Fireball accuracy. Chuck Hawks shares .17 Rifle Accuracy Test Results . Remington brass and the Federal 205M primer were used in all the following loads. ft. lbs. can also be quite accurate. | The M1903 was first used in combat during the Philippine-American War, and it was officially adopted by the United States as the standard infantry rifle on June 19, 1903 .